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capt judy aug 2008Captain Judy HelmeyMiss Judy Charters “Kicking Fish Tail Since 1956!” 124 Palmetto Drive Savannah, Georgia 31410 912 897 4921 or 912 897 3460 fax www.missjudycharters.com August 25, 2008 Saltwater inshore, offshore, blue water fishing report, Freshies Suggestions, and “Little Miss Judy’s story! Thanks for reading! Captain Judy Send your fishing questions directly to Captain Judy fishjudy2@aol.com Captain Jack McGowan Inshore Report Straight from the Helm! Aug 18, 2008 Although you’ll find various drops work at various tides. Large sea trout are an exciting fish. Exciting to catch, fun to look at and good eat! With that said my strong encouragement is for most large sea trout to be released. These large fish are holding next year’s crop. Wendell Harper reputed as likely the best seat rout fisherman on the Georgia coast has said “these large fish should be released.” This is from a man who makes a good portion of his living catching sea trout. If Wendell believes releasing large sea trout can have a positive impact on the resource then it is likely so. A statement from other fishing guides is that whatever the limit is then as long they are within the limit everything is fine. A few years the Georgia DNR had a program that would mean a slot limit, in other words releasing large fish (over 20 inches). The program never materialized due to a lack of funding. Staying with in the limits is like meeting the minimum requirement. What do you do when large seat rout are biting and your folks want to keep everyone. You try to encourage going light on the resource. When possible whether a recreational fisherman or charter fish for a variety of fish. Say you keep a couple of large sea trout, a redfish, some whiting; a couple of sharks and you have a mess of fish. Maybe in few years my outlook will be different but as of now it looks like we have plenty of sharks perhaps even too many. Keeping a shark one or two means you are saving a bunch of sea trout from either being caught by you or chopped by a shark. Tim Rudolphi Prefect Inshore Fish Catching Situation! August 16, 2008 10:00 AM till 2:00PM Tim Rudolphi and inshore fishing group had a spectacular day of fish catching this past weekend. The catch for the was “18 Big Mega Spotted Sea Trout 20 inch plus.” While fishing inshore in the creek on the last two hours of the out going tide it happened. Their bait used was live shrimp, which was presented on old stand by traditional floats rigs. Although every thing was standard changes had to be made to get a solid hook up. According to the report their bait could have floated right over the fish without a hook up if Tim hadn’t figured out how to twitch it a bit to trigger the bite! The bottom line to this report is bait is not all you need when it comes to getting a fish’s attention! Spotted sea trout especially the bite ones didn’t get that way being stupid. So therefore sometimes it takes a little push to get them to hit what your bait. I call this “triggering the bite.” The group was fishing in around 10 foot of water, rigged traditional float style, using live shrimp, and fishing just about on the bottom. They would cast situating the float so that the tide could take it right over the holding school of fish. The school was situated anywhere from 30 to 150 yards from the boat. They found out quick that just letting it float over the school of fish wasn’t working. So therefore they came up with now will be called “Rufoffie Twitch!” This is where you give your float “a little action” as it floats into and over the strike zone. King Mackerel Catching Report! Shelby Merrick IV while fishing the “Fishin Fool” has had some great catching days. He called the other day and offered up yet another trolling plan, which is now being called “Winning Plan!” Before I get down to “the plan” itself, here’s what Shelby’s fishing crew caught: “20 king mackerel, 21/2 parts of king mackerel, 7 barracuda, and 30 little tunny!” Now you know what they caught..here’s how they did it! Captain Shelby started at the artificial reef CCA, also referred to as the bridge, with his trolling plan. His line up was about as simple as it can get. He pulled various sizes of Drone Spoons behind #3 planers, which were definitely a hit with most of the fish listed above. He leader lengths between the planer and the spoon ranged from 15 to 30 feet. Shelby changed up to what worked and made it happen! On his out riggers he pulled lines of plastic squid with rigged naked ballyhoo in tow. This lure brings on the attention of just about any fish that might happen by. However, Shelby’s real interest while pulling these top water lure set ups was “Sail Fish!” During this time of the surface temperature being the same from the shore to the stream, blue water fish wonder and wonder a lot into green waters. I have received at least two sailfish catch and release happenings per week from South Carolina to northern Florida. As the years go it seems that these reports get more numerous! Captain Shelby’s “area trolled” was genius! He pulled the CCA artificial reefs for about an hour and then took a head of around 130 degrees. Once hitting about 75 to 80 feet of water he turn due south for a while and then headed straight to the artificial reef “J” buoys. He never made it to the “J” buoy, because his group was worn out and they made they’re home before getting to yet another “Hot Fishing Zone!” According to this report they had a fish on or a hit just about every 10 minutes. This boils down to lots of deck activities such as reeling in, gaffing of fish, slinging of fish, re-baiting, and re setting of lines. From the bridge point there was a whole lot of “captain thinking about catching fish going on!” Since I am also a captain I know this drill and love it! Captain Judy’s New Trolling Plan When it comes to fishing there are always changes to be made in order to get more chances at catching a fish. In my world of fishing I have pretty much have used my father’s methods and my own “rule of thumb!” This basically means “the old ways” are mostly used!’ When you are such a driven fisherman as me “you know when “the old ways” are no longer the only working factor for catching fish!” Just to offer up an example: Lets talk a little about trolling with planers for Spanish mackerel. I have always used #1, #2, and #3 planers. Behind these “no matter what size planers” I have always had about 15 to 20 feet of 20-pound test leader to which I tied the spoon directly on to the line. Basically all standard stuff when it came to catching Spanish mackerel. You lose a few spoons “here and there” as well as few larger fish. This size leader isn’t real tough and after a few fish landed it definitely develops weak spots. When I used this light leader I was always torn between getting the bite and then landing the fish. I thought that if I used heavier leader that the “fish bite chance” would narrow and just pass me by. Well, the other day I lost 6 spoons in less than and hour while trolling in about 50 feet of water. At first I thought it was barracuda cutting us off, but after a few minutes of observation I realized that it was exactly other large fish types! What I did next was totally against my fish catching reasoning! I changed all leaders to 50-pound test monofilament. I kept the same leader length as before. I loaded each size planer with 15 to 20 feet of 50-pound test line. As I tied my small 2 or 21/2 Clark and Drone spoons directly on I just couldn’t think too much about it. It flew all over me the fact that I was using such large leader and small spoons. The bottom line to this change was a big one! We then went from loosing spoons to hooking up fish, being able to fight them without the too much fear of breaking them off, and landing them. It clearly was the thing to do! The moral of this story is, “It’s hard to teach an old fisherman new tricks! That is unless they figure it out on their own!” Blue and Green Water The first thing that I would like to mention is the fact that this probably can be listed as one of those most colorful fish. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a small one or the biggest bull ever they still “light up” when they are just about to eat! They sport beautiful colors of green, yellow, and blue! Once you have seen this fish’s attitude un-fold just a distance glance makes you completely aware of its presents. My long time first mate Captain Ali Young use to play this game with any potential dolphin that might be in the area. She called it the “Hansel and Grettle plan. As she cleaned and cut bait she would throw out those bits and pieces that would semi-float. I’m not talking about filleted discarded carcasses, but small pieces of internals and skin. Heck, if you threw out lots of large pieces you would definitely get the attentions of the toothy monsters referred as sharks. Believe me if there was a school of dolphin down current this trail of food would get their attention. Things already eaten! I can’t tell you how many times I have picked regurgitated things up off the deck and put them directly on the bait board.. Fish no matter where they feed eat the strangest things. Things that come up that haven’t been overly exposed to stomach acids work just fine. Here’s a list of things to look for…eels in tact or parts and pieces, octopus or squid parts and pieces, small shells such as clams and conchs, sea cucumbers, sea horses, and any other small whole fish intact, parts, and pieces types. I have to add that we have found in the stomach content everything from chewing gum to chicken bones. All or some of these things you can find on Captain Ali bait board at any given time. These select baits are good for chumming as well as bottom fishing. With all this being said, “its only just bait” at least until it’s introduced to a fish, then it becomes a grade “A” ticket to a “solid hook up!” What’s all of the bait for? The bottom line to all of bait gathering is so that you will be ready in the event that you have any dolphin visitors. When a single or a school of dolpin comes to your boat there was a reason. They come for the shade made by the boat, which could mean a possible food source. The one thing that you must know when dealing with this fish is that their attention span is limited. The food source will keep them around, because is their main goal. Food source or something else has to reel them in. Having a bait board full of different kinds of baits helps in the scheme of things. Dolphins don’t have a very long attention span. So therefore when a school or single fish comes to your boat I suggest throwing some bait right at them. If it appeals to them it will be eaten. However, if it’s sucked in and immediately spit out it’s best to sparely throw another few pieces of something else. The secret to keeping their attention is keeping their attention. Now I know that doesn’t make any sense, but it’s true. If the dolphin spits out your tossed bait offering you had best throw something that taste entirely different or has a different texture. You only have a few seconds to do all of this, because if you don’t do it right your dolphin fish catching opportunity will swim away. Big dolphin “Wake Makers’ When we trolled the blue waters I could most of the time “call the ball!” This is my term for screaming, “fish just about on” before it actually takes the bait. When a large dolphin, 20 pounds plus, charges your surface pulled bait it basically “makes it’s own personal wake.” With a trained eye you can see the fish coming from a distance. When a fish such as this decides on being in the attack/eating mode they turn the lights on and go into the charging mode. From my boat’s bridge I use to see this all of time as we fished the blue waters of the Gulf Stream. On a usually calm day it was easy to pick out a charging dolphin. However, when there were wind ripples or lots of wave turbulence the charging mode was harder to pick out. Once you get it, you get it for sure. Most large bull dolphins are accompanied by one of two cows. I had best explain: The bulls are the male dolphins, which sport the blunt head. The cows are the females that aren’t usually as large and have a more rounder head design. Over they years of fishing Captain Ali and I came to a few conclusion when it came to be visited by a “Bull accompanied by a cow!” Big Bulls When this fish charges what you are pulling, it’s probably going to eat!” Once focused on certain bait or potential food source “tunnel vision occurs” in this fish’s mind. With that being said, “bulls charge hard and basically crash the bait at hand!” Since this fish doesn’t have a big set of teeth like a king mackerel or Wahoo, they basically suck it in and let the “pull downs” in their mouth direct it to the throat! Big bulls look for bait that’s easy to swallow sending the signal that real large ones might be a turn off. This is a fish that is very feeding size oriented! With that being said, if you feel all you have are large bulls in the area, “pull the larger rigged baits!” However, if you want what’s there, don’t want a lot of mashed baits I suggest pulling rigged baits that are less than 8 inches in length. . Cows Southern Bells for sure! I have seen the ladies cruise through my spread damaging all surfaced pulled bait while not even touching a hook. Their specialty is mashing and threshing the bait and leaving it to the side. To this day I still wonder why they don’t just eat it instead of mashing it. Once the lady makes a run through my baits those retrieved looked as though someone has basically stepped solidly on them. In other words “bait made flat as a pancake!” Freshies Suggestion Little Miss Judy Believe It or Not! Wreck Grouper The first time I ever met a wreck grouper was in a crate, which was packed with ice. There were dozens of what was called in the commercial fisherman’s world “100 pound boxes.” I had stopped by to see Frank Mathews and he said, “come look at these big fish!” This was during the early eighties. At this time not many people myself included were familiar with this grouper looking fish. I knew I had never caught one before. I also knew that even if I had hooked one up I probably couldn’t have landed it. The reason being is these fish preferred structure in 300 feet plus water. So therefore since I didn’t fish these depths my chances weren’t very good for a hook up in the first place. However, I will admit that while fishing in around 210 feet of water we hooked something on the bottom that was the strongest pull I have ever seen offered up from a hooked up bottom fish. So therefore I just might have hooked one up, but the when the freight train left the station it do so on the “wide open!” Our nickname for a grouper was “freight train pulling fish!” The wreck grouper have the biggest set of eyes I have ever seen on a fish. Their eye size doesn’t match their body. A hundred pound fish had the saucer size eyes. As I looked at all of these stacked up boxes in the back of the truck I couldn’t believe my eyes. Hundred pound boxes hold 100 pounds of fish. With that being said, “most boxes have only one fish and others only had two!” Frank said, “Some of the single fish weight more than 100 pounds!” The other day (August 2008) I had a retired commercial fisherman on my boat. I never really got his name I just called him “Commercial Man!” It was nice having someone on board that knew so much about fishing. On this particular day we caught about six large amberjack, which all weighted in at over 30 pound each. We also landed some nice grouper and an assortment of bottom fish. I watched “Commercial Man” as he fish and I could tell he was “In the knowing about fish!” At any rate, we started talking about his favorite bottom fish to catch and out of his mouth came “wreck grouper.” He offered up a little of his knowledge and he had my complete attention. The best bait was squid. I had to ask, “whole or cut up?” Commercial Man replied, “all I did was load my 10/0 hooks up with the most bait I could and dropped it down to the bottom!” The fish did the rest of the work, which was inhaling and trying to get back to the ledge. He wasn’t using a rod and reel set up. According to “Commercial Man” they were using hydraulic reel set up, which was attached directly to the boat. These large fish even pulled drag on this wrench set up! As we talked he shared one of a “commercial fisherman’s secrets.” They would take about 50 pounds of squid out at a time to start the thawing process. As they thawed liquid lined the bottom of the bait tub. They threw socks in the tub, which absorbed the squid’s liquid. Now the socks smelled and even looked like big pieces of squid. Before “Commercial Man” could speak I already knew what he was going in to say. He said, “The socks were used as bait and they were less expensive than the real stuff!” Now you know the rest of the story! Thanks for reading! Captain Judy INDEX: |